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. >> cenk: george w. bush and the loser dick cheney had eight years to get bin laden and push took a month off that's passivity. when you kill bin laden and put him in the bottom of the ocean that is not passivity. by the way he we also got into a war with libya and gadhafi is dead. that cost us zero soldiers. shut your mouth, mitt romney. you don't know a thing about foreign policy. so what is he going to do? his main strategy s okay, i got it. let's spit in everybody's eyes and encourage more war. this is him saying that in code words, watch. >> romney: it's time to change course in the middle east. that course should be organized around thighs bedrock principles. america must have confidence in our cause clarity in our purpose, and resolve in our might. no friend of america will question our commitment to support them. no enemy that attacks america will question our resolve to defeat them. and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt america's capability to back up our words. >> cenk: in other words,
. >> cenk: george w. bush and the loser dick cheney had eight years to get bin laden and push took a month off that's passivity. when you kill bin laden and put him in the bottom of the ocean that is not passivity. by the way he we also got into a war with libya and gadhafi is dead. that cost us zero soldiers. shut your mouth, mitt romney. you don't know a thing about foreign policy. so what is he going to do? his main strategy s okay, i got it. let's spit in everybody's eyes and...
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but one gaffe one mistake, one eye roll, famously, you remember when george herbert walker bush looked at his wrist watch. it cost him. when al gore started talking about a lockbox and kind of looked very robotic and broke the body space of george w. bush in 2000, it hurt him. so it's those -- this is a theatrical event as much as it is policy. >> jennifer: so great. i can hardly wait. i totally love having you come inside "the war room" and bring us this sort of view from history. historian douglas brinkley joining us. thanks so much. after the break, when it comes to our views on public unions, well, let's just say there is a teeny bit of daylight between myself and our next guest. it will be an interesting conversation, i can promise you that and a little later, brett ehrlich picks up the presidential debate ball where douglas brinkley left off and he drops it. >> the key changes to the debate format that will change the face of american discourse forever! don't go away. you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in
but one gaffe one mistake, one eye roll, famously, you remember when george herbert walker bush looked at his wrist watch. it cost him. when al gore started talking about a lockbox and kind of looked very robotic and broke the body space of george w. bush in 2000, it hurt him. so it's those -- this is a theatrical event as much as it is policy. >> jennifer: so great. i can hardly wait. i totally love having you come inside "the war room" and bring us this sort of view from...
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bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the answers through an earpiece -- rather by bringing an illegal crib sheet on to the debate stage with him. you see, previous debate rules have set out very clearly that, quote, no props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate, and, yet, have a loom at this damning evidence. this is at the very beginning of the debate on wednesday night and as you'll be able to see clearly here what is that in your pocket? mr. romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of
bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him...
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bush's i haven't heard how his policies with iran are going to be different than george w. bush's. >> the notion that somehow because i'm a man i don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone, i don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. i understand, i understand as well as with all due respect the governor of anybody else what it's like for those people sitting around that kitchen table. >> biden's wife and baby daughter were kimmed just weeks after he was elected to the united states senate. and biten writes about a debate in that first debate against caleb boggs. biden writings, i knew enough in 1972 to know that nobody would have wanted to see bogs embarrassed. he pretenned he didn't know the answer either instead of ripping someone's head off with the facts. think cheney versus edwards, benson versus quail, paul ryan has defeated every opponent easily. 12 years later, his first national debate, so to speak, came against president obama at the house republican conference retreat in 2010. >> i serve as a ranking member of the budg
bush's i haven't heard how his policies with iran are going to be different than george w. bush's. >> the notion that somehow because i'm a man i don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone, i don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. i understand, i understand as well as with all due respect the governor of anybody else what it's like for those people sitting around that kitchen table. >> biden's wife and baby daughter were kimmed just...
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pe takes credit for george w. bush being elected in 2000. whenever i saw a negative article about al gore, u put it in the paychecks. i had managers do a survey. if they liked bush, we made them register to e vote, but not if they liked gore. on election day, we made sure everyone voting for bush got to the polls. i didn't know he would win by 527 votes. afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn't have otherwise. 1,000 of them said so. the haves and the have nots, where are we in america? this election is about that. i asked who has the advantage? 77% said obama. 23% said mitt romney. >>> coming up, mitt romney is trying to fool the american people by shaking the etch a sketch by line. tonight i'm calling the candidate out to set the record straight. my commentary about what the country would look like if this guy is in the oval office. >>> there's an old saying in tennessee. i know it's in texas. it it says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> george w. bush famously said we can't g
pe takes credit for george w. bush being elected in 2000. whenever i saw a negative article about al gore, u put it in the paychecks. i had managers do a survey. if they liked bush, we made them register to e vote, but not if they liked gore. on election day, we made sure everyone voting for bush got to the polls. i didn't know he would win by 527 votes. afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn't have otherwise. 1,000 of them said so. the haves and the...
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that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. now, if this is math, it's math on meth. i mean, it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again. and then big bird is really a good illustration of how in addition to all these tax cuts, in addition to all the military spending, all he talks about is big bird. and it's got to be turned back on him. >> in terms of the way the president tried to make that case during the debate. that is what the president returned to over and over again. that's why he kept saying $5 trillion, talking about the extra trillions of dollars in defense spending and how expensive the tax cuts were going to be. i think the president was trying to make that case because wasn
that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. now, if this is math, it's math on meth. i mean, it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again....
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he got a ged, got a medical degree, and went on to become surgeon general in george w. bush's administration. here is a part of his story in a campaign ad. let's watch. >> from the jungles of vietnam to life-saving rescues at home, rich carmona has always answered the call. in the senate he'll support our veterans because he's lived it. >> now, richard carmona has put the republican held arizona senate seat in play. democrats dearly want to hold on to the majority in the senate and flipping the seat held by jon kyl would make it even harder for republicans to stop them. it would be a powerful symbol of the shift politics in western states. joining me now is richard carmona. it's on honor to have you on the show, sir. how do you handle -- how do you unify your state along ethnic lines between what we call anglos and latinos? how do you make the state feel whole? >> well, it's whole and home for me, chris, because i have been here over a quarter century. as you know, working in health care, working along the border, working as a police officer, working as a professor at t
he got a ged, got a medical degree, and went on to become surgeon general in george w. bush's administration. here is a part of his story in a campaign ad. let's watch. >> from the jungles of vietnam to life-saving rescues at home, rich carmona has always answered the call. in the senate he'll support our veterans because he's lived it. >> now, richard carmona has put the republican held arizona senate seat in play. democrats dearly want to hold on to the majority in the senate and...
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not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a
not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all...
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he did win more votes in that election of course than george w. bush. joining me now is the host of that special, linda ellerbee. how disappointed are you? this was kind of a presidential campaign tradition. why is mitt romney afraid of your kids? >> oh, gosh. lawrence i don't think he's afraid of kids. the man has 18 grandchildren for goodness sax. >> yeah, he does. >> on the other hand, i have four grandchildren and they can be pretty scary. maybe he is afraid of kids. we never really know why. because we don't talk to the candidate. we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that candidates have been doing for a long ti
he did win more votes in that election of course than george w. bush. joining me now is the host of that special, linda ellerbee. how disappointed are you? this was kind of a presidential campaign tradition. why is mitt romney afraid of your kids? >> oh, gosh. lawrence i don't think he's afraid of kids. the man has 18 grandchildren for goodness sax. >> yeah, he does. >> on the other hand, i have four grandchildren and they can be pretty scary. maybe he is afraid of kids. we...
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>> romney is going to have to do what he can to say, look, i'm not george w. bush. the entire message from obama from the beginning of the campaign has been the policies of bush got us into this -- >> how is he not george w. bush in terms of his economic policy? >> because he's been a much more successful record in business. george w. bush was owner of a baseball team and went straight to being governor of texas. mitt romney is an expert on turn-around. he can point on the olympics and all of the different cases and right now he can point to a turn-around campaign. no long knives are out. maybe this is the tagg romney turn-around in the romney campaign. >> that's good. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> go ahead and finish up, jim. >> just observing that you mentioned earlier that you see the economy improve. we are back to only the second worst year for foreclosures in the past 17 years, so, yes we are better than we were in 2011. i don't know if this is necessarily where you want to be. i think the argument that 7.8% unemployment -- i'm not jumping into any jack welch con
>> romney is going to have to do what he can to say, look, i'm not george w. bush. the entire message from obama from the beginning of the campaign has been the policies of bush got us into this -- >> how is he not george w. bush in terms of his economic policy? >> because he's been a much more successful record in business. george w. bush was owner of a baseball team and went straight to being governor of texas. mitt romney is an expert on turn-around. he can point on the...
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. >> i strongly recommend to romney that he campaign everywhere with george w. bush. if you look at all the data, people still blame by a margin of two to one the economic problems in this country on bush. so i think -- and the other thing, by the way, it would open up for the president is the very clear case that if you didn't like the bush/cheney years, you wouldn't like the romney years because he has the same policies and the same advisers. >> but the difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you. that's the argument. you would think the obama campaign would want to start looking forward toward the vp debate this week and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken la
. >> i strongly recommend to romney that he campaign everywhere with george w. bush. if you look at all the data, people still blame by a margin of two to one the economic problems in this country on bush. so i think -- and the other thing, by the way, it would open up for the president is the very clear case that if you didn't like the bush/cheney years, you wouldn't like the romney years because he has the same policies and the same advisers. >> but the difference is that the...
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george w. bush had very struggling numbers. not so strong, decent third quarter, decent third quarter helped president bush heading into his re-election campaign. look how weak growth has been in this election year in the obama presidency? well below even what it was in 2004 for george w. bush and the second quarter drops more. very anemic growth. we don't know the third quarter numbers. we'll get those before the election. president obama we know he's trying to do something no one's done with fdr, win with the unemployment rate above 7.2%. look at gdp numbers to win, it would be a bit of history. >> certainly would be. john, thanks very much. we're going to have much more coverage, full coverage of tonight's debate president obama and governor romney face-to-face as american voters weigh their choice. the first presidential debate takes place tonight. you can watch it live. our coverage begins 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> a fiery speech by then-senator barack obama sets off some media fireworks five
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bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you attribute the record rise in poverty and the ex-spams of income inequality und youer your administration? >> a great question and if i decided to start with the president, that's the question i would have used, just that one. i mentioned his most recent stump speech, se, he mentioned the word "poor" once in passion a record number of poor people in the united states, 46 million. accusing mir of being cold and heartless and not caring about the 47%. i have heard next to nothing.from the president who speaks endlessly about the middle class about the plight of the for a poor and an excellent que
bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you...
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solicitor general under president george w. bush. a very skilled courtroom litigator, argued a lot of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court, so a good partner for paul ryan, being able to think on his feet in a moment's notice to challenge the responses. he's also reviewing joe biden's previous debates and speeches. joe biden's been an elected official for 40 years, so he has a lot of experience under his belt and he's memorized some stats and phrases that paul ryan might be able to use. obviously, in a debate like that, 90 minutes long, you want to give as much information in the shortest amount of time as possible and that's what paul ryan is doing. he has a beautiful day to prepare, but we believe he's in the hotel preparing for this debate in 48 hours, thomas. >> we'll be watching. ron mott traveling with congressman ryan. thank you so much, appreciate it. >>> so, what will it take to win the vp debate and the presidential debate one week from now? joining me is political science professor samuel popkin, author of "the candida
solicitor general under president george w. bush. a very skilled courtroom litigator, argued a lot of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court, so a good partner for paul ryan, being able to think on his feet in a moment's notice to challenge the responses. he's also reviewing joe biden's previous debates and speeches. joe biden's been an elected official for 40 years, so he has a lot of experience under his belt and he's memorized some stats and phrases that paul ryan might be able to use....
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>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades. so absolutely, we're not blaming, you know, our predecessor, by any means. but we don't think we should return to the same policies that crashed the economy. >> exactly. stephanie cutter, by the way, good job competing with chuck todd sitting next to you. >> say hi to chuck todd yelling right next to me. >> i know, he's right next to me. >> good luck there. >> we appreciate it. so mark mckinnon, they do have a problem, actually, the buried remarks over the past four years, that's -- i mean, you heard stephanie saying, well, actually, we've created all these new jobs. that seems to go agains
>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades....
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i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image f
i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in...
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w. ♪ bill built hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats striking back. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. upfront we have some brand new polling by rasmussen, the first taken since the big debate. in the must-win state of florida. governor romney now leads 49, 47, however that's a dead heat when the factor in the march i didn't know of error. in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there as well. a few days ago had the president up big in ohio. in crucial virginia romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean if he was talking -- if he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> look, mitt romney had a
w. ♪ bill built hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats striking back. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. upfront we have some brand new polling by rasmussen, the first taken since the big debate. in the must-win state of florida. governor romney now leads 49, 47, however that's a dead heat when the factor in the march i didn't know of error. in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there...
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w. bush's fault. after looking at the latest polls it appears the truth is beginning to catch up with barack obama. hear with reaction, the author of the "new york times" latest book "mugged" ann coulter and fox news contributor, the one and only pat caddell. the author of the study at princeton just lied. >> right. >> sean: he points out that obama purposely took his interpretation of romney's economic plan out of context, which was -- that means the president lied. >> the conclusion was, the princeton economist supports what romney says, i'm going to cut, which he said a million times in the debate, and i think americans understand, understand he's telling the truth, no matter how much they talk about lies, cut rates across the board by 20% and eliminate deductions and exemptions, which everybody knows is a scam, and it's mostly taken advantage of by the very wealthy. he can keep the rates for the very rich the same. this lie, lie, lie business, this is exactly how the left reacted to
w. bush's fault. after looking at the latest polls it appears the truth is beginning to catch up with barack obama. hear with reaction, the author of the "new york times" latest book "mugged" ann coulter and fox news contributor, the one and only pat caddell. the author of the study at princeton just lied. >> right. >> sean: he points out that obama purposely took his interpretation of romney's economic plan out of context, which was -- that means the president...
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under george w. bush, the final five years, we is that you household income rise by $5,000. so that's quite -- >> bush presided over the economy that collapsed and he wasn't the federal government not watching the gangsters on wall street, trading all of these derivatives. the top donors to each campaign. dobbs can comment from open secrets dot-org. president obama's re-election campaign, university of california, biggest donor, microsoft, goog eel harvard! i'm outraged. u.s. government -- i don't know that works. deloit, dl piper, stanford university, kaiser, sidly austin. anything surprise ow here on that list? >> the surprise here is going back to 2008 and 2004 and locking at the number of banks that obama has lost. he has lost wall street. >> the banks are giving to romney. harvard pinheads and the university of california, that sidly austin is a law firm. here's the romney done ogoldman sachs, bank of america, j.p. morgan, morgan stanley, all the banks, credit criss, citigroup,bar clays, dirkland, that's a law firm. the banks have gone for romney, why? >> they are gone
under george w. bush, the final five years, we is that you household income rise by $5,000. so that's quite -- >> bush presided over the economy that collapsed and he wasn't the federal government not watching the gangsters on wall street, trading all of these derivatives. the top donors to each campaign. dobbs can comment from open secrets dot-org. president obama's re-election campaign, university of california, biggest donor, microsoft, goog eel harvard! i'm outraged. u.s. government...
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four years earlier, here it is, an almost identical five-point plan was offered by president george w. bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn't one of the five points. we need to see president obama dismantle romney as more of the same and dismantle these romney lies. here's the president in wisconsin today. >> whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. >> let's bring in sam stein, political reporter for "huffington post" and also e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor, and author of the book "our divided political heart. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. don't we need to see more of president obama, what we saw today, the next time he shares the st
four years earlier, here it is, an almost identical five-point plan was offered by president george w. bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn't one of the five points. we need to see president obama dismantle romney as more of the same...
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the answer, george w. bush. there were three presidential debates in 2000 and three in 2004. gives bush the record number of debate appearances at six. the elder president bush and bill clinton both did five general election debates. an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living
the answer, george w. bush. there were three presidential debates in 2000 and three in 2004. gives bush the record number of debate appearances at six. the elder president bush and bill clinton both did five general election debates. an honorable mention for a nonpolitician goes to pbs's jim lehrer. this year will be his 11th appearance as a moderator of a presidential debate. barack obama, assuming we go through all three debates will tie bush for that record six. [ male announcer ] after...